1 00:00:00,050 --> 00:00:06,970 Coming up this next hour, it's Shickley Mix right here on your classic choice, 89.7 FM, KACU. 2 00:00:08,010 --> 00:00:18,650 You are listening to member-supported 89.7, KACU FM, Abilene. This hour of Shickley Mix provided by special friends of KACU. 3 00:00:19,690 --> 00:00:22,130 Does a rabbit have ears? Here's the theme. 4 00:00:37,290 --> 00:00:49,950 Hello there, I'm Peter Shickley, and this is Shickley Mix, a program dedicated to the proposition that all musics are created equal. Or as Duke Ellington put it, if it sounds good, it is good. 5 00:00:50,390 --> 00:01:02,150 And it is our good fortune that our bills are paid by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and by the National Endowment for the Arts, with additional support from the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, 6 00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:10,870 and this enlightened and very well-insulated radio station, whose caring and devoted staff lets me out between times. 7 00:01:10,890 --> 00:01:23,610 And makes sure that those programs get distributed by PRI, Public Radio International. The reason I mentioned the fact that this station is very well insulated in terms of sound is that, 8 00:01:24,310 --> 00:01:32,310 well, today's show is about animals. And I guess word of that got out. I don't know how. I'm always working on the program right up until the very last minute. 9 00:01:32,590 --> 00:01:39,550 But anyway, I got a fax from an animal rights organization called, let's see, 10 00:01:41,690 --> 00:01:52,890 Mankind Against Nefarious, Unscrupulous, and Reprehensible Exploitation. And it says that the members of manure are going to picket the station today 11 00:01:52,890 --> 00:02:02,830 to protest my doing a show on animals. So I called them up and I said, in the first place, who put the bee in your bonnet about this? And what's your beef anyway? 12 00:02:03,710 --> 00:02:15,150 Obviously, something's got your goat here. Tell me what's bugging you. I said, I guarantee you, no animals will be harmed in the making. Well, it turns out that because of my reputation, 13 00:02:15,570 --> 00:02:28,150 they assume that I'm going to make fun of animals. Can you believe that? Apparently, one of the members of manure heard me on a radio talk show. And I was talking about one of my favorite movies, Beat the Devil, 14 00:02:28,250 --> 00:02:40,870 with Humphrey Bogart and Gina Lola Brigida and Peter Lorre and Robert Morley and Jennifer Jones. Anyway, and do you know what a lemur is? It's a furry, monkey-like animal with big, round buggy eyes. 15 00:02:40,890 --> 00:02:52,670 That lives in Madagascar. So anyway, I said that the lemur is an animal that was discovered by a casting agent who couldn't afford Peter Lorre. I mean, it was just a silly offhand remark, 16 00:02:52,830 --> 00:03:04,550 but apparently this animal rights activist thought that I was making fun of an endangered species. Hey, I thought I was making fun of Peter Lorre. So, I don't know if they'll show up or not, 17 00:03:04,650 --> 00:03:14,430 but like I say, this building is very soundproof, so it shouldn't get in the way of what is, after all, a highly-reliable animal. It's a highly educational program, a program that, through music, 18 00:03:14,670 --> 00:03:23,070 promotes a healthy respect for all forms of life. Okay, on other editions of this show, we've talked about program music, 19 00:03:23,230 --> 00:03:35,090 specifically music that tries literally to imitate the sounds of animals or other sounds that are not usually thought of as musical. The trouble is, it's pretty hard to do with most sounds. 20 00:03:35,730 --> 00:03:46,630 So, if you haven't been told, you don't know what's being imitated. Here are three very explicit sound pictures from a 17th-century piece. 21 00:03:47,310 --> 00:03:52,610 We'll hear a bit of introductory music and then see if you can guess what the first one is. 22 00:04:48,040 --> 00:05:00,460 Okay, that was hens. A pretty good imitation of hens scratching. Or clucking. See, there you go. Is it scratching or clucking? Anyway, it's quite hen-like. All right, now, what's this? 23 00:05:26,730 --> 00:05:34,390 Did you get that? That was a cat fight. Okay, now the last one, which is probably the least realistic of them all. 24 00:05:44,750 --> 00:06:18,000 And there we had a little outburst of dogs barking. 25 00:06:18,660 --> 00:06:31,100 One of the not-so-subtle and certainly not very well-integrated examples of tone painting in Carlo Farina's Capriccio Stravagante. Published in 1626. 26 00:06:31,860 --> 00:06:44,340 And performed for us by Monica Huggett and the European Community Baroque Orchestra. Now, three centuries later, almost to the year, another Italian composer had a revolutionary idea. 27 00:06:45,460 --> 00:06:57,740 Instead of doing a poor imitation of a nightingale on the violin, why not use the new technology of recording to, in effect, actually have a nightingale in the orchestra? 28 00:06:59,060 --> 00:07:11,200 This was 1924, so there were no digital samplers or anything. They had a phonograph, probably back in the percussion section, and one of the percussionists would put the needle on the record at the appropriate moment. 29 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:22,280 This raises profound musical and philosophical questions, which we'll touch upon after we've heard the music. Here's a section from that groundbreaking piece, 30 00:07:22,460 --> 00:07:35,040 followed by a second work that, at the end of it, employs a recording of another animal to heighten, quite effectively, I think, the build-up to a climax. By the way, notice in the first piece 31 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:43,780 that instruments in the orchestra imitate birds before the real thing is heard. I call this sweetlet, The Real Thing. 32 00:13:15,190 --> 00:13:39,320 The Real Thing. 33 00:13:40,260 --> 00:13:51,320 First we heard the end of the third movement, the movement of the Pines of Rome by Ottorino Respighi, with Antal Dorati conducting the Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra, as it was called back in 1960. 34 00:13:51,740 --> 00:14:04,580 The second piece was Street Stuff by Daryl Anger, performed by the Turtle Island String Quartet and an unidentified dog. So what do you think? Grove's Dictionary says, 35 00:14:04,780 --> 00:14:17,620 the climax of this trend, and in a sense, the reductio ad absurdum of program music, is found in Respighi's The Pines of Rome, where the problem of imitating the nightingale is solved 36 00:14:17,620 --> 00:14:28,760 by simply using a recording of an actual nightingale's song. Ernest Newman said, realism of this sort is a trifle too crude to blend with the music. 37 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:41,540 But since the advent of the tape recorder, we've gotten used to very high fidelity and easy manipulation, and also, especially in non-classical music, to pieces that are created for recordings. 38 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:52,720 I don't think anybody worries about the philosophical implications of the presence of these animals. They're part of something that resembles a radio drama more than a symphony concert. 39 00:14:54,640 --> 00:15:06,880 ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ 40 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:07,660 ¶¶ 41 00:15:07,660 --> 00:15:14,500 ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ 42 00:15:20,660 --> 00:15:22,580 ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ 43 00:15:59,470 --> 00:16:11,890 The Beatles. Good morning. Good morning. Fancy meeting you here. Don't you remember we were on a committee together exploring the philosophical implications of using recorded animal sounds in musical compositions. Right. 44 00:16:11,930 --> 00:16:22,590 My name's Peter Shickley. And, smile, you're on Shickley Mix from PRI, Public Radio International. No animals were harmed in the making of this program. 45 00:16:23,250 --> 00:16:35,150 That's both a fact and the title of today's show. Before we go on, I'd like to tell a story about the Pines of Rome. I was very glad to be able to use a recording of Durati and the Minneapolis, 46 00:16:35,510 --> 00:16:46,690 because when I lived in Fargo, North Dakota around 1950, the only time we got to hear a live symphony orchestra was once a year when the Minneapolis Orchestra came through. 47 00:16:47,370 --> 00:17:00,290 I think we were usually the last date on their tour or something. I can remember one year, one of the brass section was pretty drunk. It was pretty obvious from the way he played. But the most memorable concert was one that was over the river in Moorhead there, 48 00:17:00,350 --> 00:17:10,250 and they built out the stage because of the size of the orchestra. So some of us were sitting way up in the balcony where we were right over the bass section. We could actually see the conductor's face. 49 00:17:10,690 --> 00:17:20,630 And it was Durati, and they were doing the Pines of Rome. And a minute or two before the nightingale was to come in, there was this sort of... This sort of... 50 00:17:20,650 --> 00:17:33,630 A flash and some sparks came down, a little bit of smoke. And it was very obvious that the percussion player had turned on the phonograph and blown a fuse somewhere. And everybody started getting the giggles. 51 00:17:33,850 --> 00:17:45,770 I mean, whole solos were missing because the player was doubled over in laughter. And then Durati started getting the giggles. And then he would sort of look up into the balcony and see us seeing him, you know, 52 00:17:45,770 --> 00:17:57,050 so then he'd get very serious. But a minute later, he was having trouble again. And it was a riotous scene. And then, of course, when it came time for the place where the nightingale was supposed to sing, 53 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:08,930 the ever-trustworthy leader of the orchestra, the concertmaster, played some nightingale stuff on his violin. Okay, switch ahead a few years later. My family has moved to Rome, Italy. 54 00:18:09,450 --> 00:18:20,550 And Durati is conducting the Pines of Rome in an outdoor concert at the Baths of Caracalla. And we're in the audience. And in the last movement, 55 00:18:20,650 --> 00:18:30,070 the Appian Way, where the Roman legions are marching along, and it gets bigger and bigger and bigger. It grows for the whole movement. 56 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:43,130 In the middle of the movement, the Trastevere section of Rome, right behind this open amphitheater, started having its annual fireworks display. So the music got bigger and the fireworks got bigger. 57 00:18:43,210 --> 00:18:56,050 And you could see Durati. Even from the back, you could see him seething. And we went backstage afterwards. And introduced ourselves and reminded him of the concert in Moorhead, Minnesota, which he had not forgotten. 58 00:18:56,330 --> 00:19:06,390 And I guess I was just never destined to hear Durati do that piece without mishap. But let's get back to our philosophical implications here. 59 00:19:06,790 --> 00:19:17,210 Even though composers for centuries have devised ever more sophisticated ways of imitating animals with instruments, does that mean that the real thing is better? 60 00:19:17,870 --> 00:19:28,630 Just because painters from the Middle East and the Middle Ages on struggled with the problem of how to represent flowing or splashing water, does that mean a photograph would be better? Certainly not. 61 00:19:28,850 --> 00:19:39,190 The stylization is part of what we value. Not part of, it is what we value in paintings. In Vivaldi's The Four Seasons, the bird music in the solo violins 62 00:19:39,190 --> 00:19:49,950 is delightful precisely because it isn't natural bird song, with its seemingly random and fragmented quality. It's as if you had birds imitating violins. 63 00:19:50,050 --> 00:20:01,830 As if you could train birds to operate within the logic of Baroque music. Imposing the ordered ideas of human art on bird song doesn't necessarily make it more beautiful, but it makes it different. 64 00:20:02,370 --> 00:20:14,610 Listening to it is a very different experience. In my first string quartet, I used the song of a thrush I heard in the woods. I notated that song for the first violin as accurately as I could. 65 00:20:14,890 --> 00:20:22,620 But would I rather have an actual thrush singing there? Uh... Well, I don't think so. 66 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:36,340 Although I must say, if I answered the doorbell and it was a thrush asking for an audition, I wouldn't slam the door in his face. Okay, here's an interesting comparison... Oh, rats. Excuse me. 67 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:47,670 Hello? Oh, hello, sir. Oh, they have. How many demonstrators are there? Okay, well, let me get this next suite load on, 68 00:20:47,790 --> 00:20:58,310 and then I'll come down and talk to them for a couple of minutes. Okay, bye. Well, those animal rights activists are picketing the station, so let me get this suite load up and running, 69 00:20:58,390 --> 00:21:10,970 and then I'll go down and see if I can straighten things out a bit. Here's an interesting comparison between imitation and the real thing. In the first piece, a symphony orchestra imitates the sound of a flock of sheep, 70 00:21:11,710 --> 00:21:22,830 whereas the second selection uses the actual voices of sheep. In other words, the first piece is music imitating sheep, and the second piece is music imitating sheep, and the second piece is music imitating sheep. The second is sheep imitating music. 71 00:21:23,430 --> 00:21:25,750 We'll call this suite load, sheep music. 72 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:46,340 Okay, our suite load. Excuse me, I'm a little out of breath here. I just got back up here. The suite load was called sheep music, and it began with an excerpt from Don Quixote by Richard Strauss, 73 00:25:46,660 --> 00:25:57,660 the variation in which the knight of the doleful countenance meets up with a flock of sheep that he takes to be the armies of the emperor. James Levine conducting the met orchestra. 74 00:25:58,380 --> 00:26:09,480 And then, in what could fairly be called a change of pace, Barbara Ann, performed by U2. That's E-W-E-2. A little pun there. 75 00:26:10,020 --> 00:26:21,760 Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, Brianne, bah, bah. Well, I won't try to compete. That's from an album called Barnyard Beat, and that album, I'm sure, makes use of the new sampling technology, 76 00:26:22,180 --> 00:26:33,380 which enables you to record any sound and then transpose it to any pitch you want. So you could, it wouldn't have much variety, but you could record one sheep bleat 77 00:26:33,380 --> 00:26:46,140 and then use it for every note in the song. U2. I'm sure they thought of calling that group the bleatles, but... Oh, so I went down and talked to the people from that animal rights organization, 78 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:59,000 Mankind Against Nefarious, Unscrupulous, and Reprehensible Exploitation. They're picketing the station because they think I'm going to make fun of animals. I must say that the members of Manure 79 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:08,040 are not the hippest protesters I've ever seen. There's only six or seven of them, and... Well, like, one of the things they're chanting is, 80 00:27:08,180 --> 00:27:18,700 hey, hey, Mr. S., how would you like to be made fun of all the time? But anyway, I assured them of my gift and my great respect for all our friends 81 00:27:18,700 --> 00:27:29,760 on the lower branches of the evolutionary tree, and I promised them that I would never take part in another goldfish eating contest. The truth of the matter is, I don't even like fish or seafood. 82 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:40,760 So anyway, I hope they decamp soon. They said they'd think about it, and they're going to monitor the rest of the show. Fair enough. So let's go on here now to hear a pair of very nice pieces 83 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:52,100 that use animal sounds, sounds made by those noble creatures called animals, as a continuous background. In the first one, which is actually a transition passage 84 00:27:52,100 --> 00:28:03,140 in a larger work, the jungle sounds appear to be quite random at first, but as the piece goes on, the noises are revealed to be in a recurring pattern, like a loop. 85 00:28:03,940 --> 00:28:15,500 In the second work, a colony of birds acts as a constant backdrop, the scenery against which the scene is played. Two examples of animal ambience. 86 00:33:56,100 --> 00:34:07,500 First, we heard a cut called Purlieu from an album called Monkey Village by Benjamin Grant DePauw. Then came the middle movement of Cantus Arcticus 87 00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:20,040 by the Finnish composer Aino Johanne Rautavara. It's subtitled Concerto for Birds, but that seems to me a misleading title, since the birds, especially in this movement, 88 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:31,080 act more like the accompaniment to the birds. So what do you think about the birds? I'm not quite sure what I think. It would certainly be very different without them, there's no doubt about that. 89 00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:45,199 Unlike Respighi's 1924 audience would, we, or at least many of us, probably experience this piece in a rather cinematic way. I find that even if I'm not seeing actual images, 90 00:34:45,460 --> 00:34:54,880 I have the feeling of a wordless movie set in an Arctic landscape, and the orchestra music is the movie score. But that may just be me. 91 00:34:55,420 --> 00:35:08,300 Me? I'm Peter Schickely, and the show is Schickely Mix, from PRI, Public Radio International. No animals were harmed in the making of this show, nor will they ever be, no siree. 92 00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:18,380 We're talking about animals in music since the development of sound recording. And looking at the old Schickely Mix hourglass, I'll be darned if it isn't tidbit time. 93 00:35:19,140 --> 00:35:31,360 There's a thriving industry now that consists of taking recordings of natural sounds and overlaying them onto pieces of music. It's the old more is more principle, I guess. 94 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:42,280 In this striking example, the trumpeting sounds you hear are made by bull elk during the mating season. I've heard that sound in the wild, and it's pretty amazing. 95 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:45,660 But in the long run, it didn't sound like this. 96 00:40:57,300 --> 00:41:08,260 Today's tidbit was from a CD called Classical Nature, Mussorgsky's Night on Bald Mountain, or about a third of it anyway, played by an unidentified orchestra 97 00:41:08,980 --> 00:41:20,920 situated in the midst of a herd of elk during a thunderstorm. I wonder if the orchestra got hazard pay. You could certainly call that a rain date. Okay, now I have a confession to make. 98 00:41:21,220 --> 00:41:33,540 I sort of like that particular cut. I mean, you sort of get the feeling that the Mussorgsky piece passes over you like the thunderstorm. A few miles east, they're just hearing the beginning of it right now. 99 00:41:34,460 --> 00:41:40,020 My purist friends are going to be upset, but I... Excuse me. 100 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:41,440 Hello? 101 00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:57,560 Well, it isn't the first time, and it probably won't be the last. Thanks for nothing. Well, I've been kicked out of the AMJ again. It's like a matter of prestige in the profession, you know, 102 00:41:57,580 --> 00:42:10,120 to belong to the American musicological junta. But I always end up getting in trouble. Just like I'm in trouble with the animal rights outfit. Yeah, I wonder if they're gone. Uh, just a minute, folks. 103 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:22,300 Excuse me, I'm going to go over to the window and see if those protesters are gone. I hope they are. Oh, I can't see the front of the building. I'm going to have to open the window here and stick my head out. 104 00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:30,450 Aha, nary a protester. The coast is clear. Okay. 105 00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:45,780 Now, I sat on a bee. Man, he really got me. 106 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:58,500 Of course, I don't think he's in such great shape himself. Looks like about half of him is left here on my chair. Well, I guess his name's Eric. You have to... 107 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,720 This is getting tiresome. 108 00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:03,320 Hello? Hello? Hello? 109 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:18,040 Hey, listen. Okay, so you're right. Eric, the half a bee over there on the floor, has given the lie to the title of today's show. Right. Right, but when you say that an animal was harmed 110 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:30,100 in the making of this show, that's not exactly accurate either. Two animals were harmed, a bee and a radio show host. We're both in bad shape. I'm going to have to do the rest of this program standing up, so give me a break. 111 00:43:30,820 --> 00:43:40,160 Man. Okay, folks. On several editions of Shickly Mix, we've dealt with sound effects of one sort or another, 112 00:43:40,380 --> 00:43:52,780 but we haven't tackled one of the most intriguing questions of all in the academic field of sound effects philosophy. Does a sound effect have to have an objective correlative in reality? 113 00:43:53,660 --> 00:44:02,800 Can a sound effect be neither musical nor representative of a physical object or action? Can sound effects be metaphorical? 114 00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:19,000 I'll teach you the... system. A period sounds like this. Here is a dash. An exclamation point is a vertical dash with a period underneath. 115 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:32,740 Here is a comma. Quotation are two commas. If you happen to be left-handed... 116 00:44:37,250 --> 00:44:48,000 Question mark is rather difficult. Finally, the colon. The two little dots. You know, you... 117 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,820 Put them either over or under each other. 118 00:44:51,340 --> 00:44:51,820 Psst. 119 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,100 That is... 120 00:44:54,400 --> 00:45:04,740 the sound for the colon. I have a book here, and I'm going to read to you a short story so you can hear how this system really sounds. This book was written by Shakespeare this time. 121 00:45:07,710 --> 00:45:17,830 Johann Sebastian Shakespeare. This is a pickpocket edition, by the way. I have a short story right here in the beginning of the book. 122 00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:43,150 Here it is on page two. In the open window, there suddenly came light. Beautiful Eleanor sat alone, dreaming of but one thing. 123 00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:55,440 Two years had passed since she met Sir Henry. 124 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:05,700 She could still remember the unhappy evening... when her father had thrown him out. 125 00:46:09,140 --> 00:46:12,400 They had been sitting in the park, and Henry had said... 126 00:46:17,310 --> 00:46:17,910 Darling! 127 00:46:26,070 --> 00:46:27,370 Is this the first time you've seen Sir Henry? 128 00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:46,640 you have loved she answered yes but it is so wonderful that I hope it will not 129 00:46:46,640 --> 00:47:13,420 be the last suddenly she heard a well-known sound it was he in two 130 00:47:13,420 --> 00:47:43,150 strides he was near her embraced kissed and caressed what is love she asked he 131 00:47:43,150 --> 00:48:07,640 answered well I couldn't live without she asked I'm sorry where have all your 132 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:08,320 thoughts been 133 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:25,640 this wild he answered with thee my maiden suddenly he was gone all she 134 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:48,550 heard was the well-known sound of his departing horse Victor Borga with his 135 00:48:48,550 --> 00:48:55,710 justly phonetic punctuation routine. Well, we've got a little extra time here, so let's go back to where 136 00:48:55,710 --> 00:51:45,270 we started. Let's go back to Respighi and birds. No gizmos this time. Well, I'm happy to report 137 00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:57,990 that I'm sitting down again. That was Hugh Wolfe conducting the St. Paul Chamber Orchestra in the third movement of Respighi's The Birds. That was The Hen, based on an 18th century piece 138 00:51:57,990 --> 00:52:10,030 by Rameau. R-A-M-E-A-U. Rameau. Huh. If a male English sheep drinks French bottled water, 139 00:52:10,580 --> 00:52:22,270 would it be Rameau? Whoa, whoa, everything at once there. Never mind, I'm out of here. 140 00:52:22,570 --> 00:52:33,710 Oh man, the pun punisher, the irrelevancy alarm, the phone all at once. That is Rameau. Rameau. Rameau. Rameau. Rameau. Rameau. Rameau. Rameau. Rameau. That is a first, folks. That is a shickly mix first. Just when you thought it was safe to sit 141 00:52:33,710 --> 00:52:39,030 down. We're going to have Paul Winter take us out here, folks. And this is an interesting 142 00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:46,990 companion piece to our tidbit. Because in this case, the musician actually is above Antelope 143 00:52:46,990 --> 00:52:53,710 Creek in Yellowstone Park, playing antiphonally with the bellowing elk. The cut is called 144 00:52:53,710 --> 00:53:37,610 Elkhorns. And that's Shickly Mix for this week. 145 00:53:37,610 --> 00:53:47,930 Shickly Mix for this week. Our program is made possible with funds provided by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and by the National Endowment for the Arts, with additional support 146 00:53:47,930 --> 00:53:59,450 from the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, and from this radio station and its members. Thank you, members. And not only that, our program is distributed by PRI, Public Radio 147 00:53:59,450 --> 00:54:07,590 International. We'll tell you in a moment how you can get an official playlist of all the music on today's program with album numbers and everything. 148 00:54:07,610 --> 00:54:18,410 Just refer to the program number. This is program number 134. And this is Peter Shickly saying goodbye and reminding you that it don't mean a thing if 149 00:54:18,410 --> 00:54:22,850 it ain't got that certain je ne sais quoi. You're looking good. See you next week. 150 00:57:16,650 --> 00:57:43,140 If you'd like a copy of that playlist I mentioned, send a stamped self-addressed envelope to 151 00:57:43,140 --> 00:57:52,940 Shickly Mix. That's S-C-H-I-C-K-E-L-E, Shickly Mix. Care of Public Radio International, 100 North 6th Street, 152 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:58,520 Suite 900A, Minneapolis, Minnesota, 55403. 153 00:57:59,860 --> 00:58:03,140 PRI, Public Radio International.