1 00:00:00,660 --> 00:00:09,160 And you're listening to PRI Programs on KSUI, 91.7 FM, Classical Radio, KSUI in Iowa City. 2 00:00:09,860 --> 00:00:22,890 6 o'clock is the time. Coming your way next, Peter Schickele and Schickele Mix. Peter, are you ready to go? And I do believe he is. 3 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,960 I cannot tell a lie, so I won't answer that. Here's the theme. 4 00:00:29,740 --> 00:00:43,220 [music: theme; Mozart, Symphony No. 24 (K 182), 2nd Mvt.; Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra of London/Leinsdorf] 5 00:00:43,220 --> 00:00:51,380 Hello there! I'm Peter Schickele. And this is Schickele Mix, a program dedicated to the proposition that all musics are created equal. 6 00:00:51,740 --> 00:00:56,200 Or as Duke Ellington put it, if it sounds good, it is good. 7 00:00:56,500 --> 00:00:59,200 And it's always good to know that your bills are paid. 8 00:00:59,620 --> 00:01:05,240 Ours are paid by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and by the National Endowment for the Arts, 9 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,340 with additional support from the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, 10 00:01:09,340 --> 00:01:24,700 And last, but not in the least least, from this brave radio station, where I am provided with a studio and enough rope to hang my ideas out to dry before they are borne aloft by the distributive winds of PRI, Public Radio International. 11 00:01:26,060 --> 00:01:36,560 You know, I don't want to complain about the studio they give me here, it's a great place and I'm glad to be able to use it, but there is one thing about it and that's that you can't turn the phone off. 12 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:42,420 And you regular listeners know that it does sometimes make for interruptions. 13 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:49,300 Last week, my friend Laurie called up practically at the top of the show, and, well, we ended up gabbing 14 00:01:49,300 --> 00:01:50,640 for the better part of an hour. 15 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,960 But just in case the station manager is listening, I'd like to point out, sir, that it was her 16 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:56,260 nickel. 17 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,480 Laurie is a very good amateur pianist. 18 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:06,960 She studied at a conservatory and she loves playing, but, well, she took everything they told her at school as gospel. 19 00:02:07,580 --> 00:02:14,080 And, I mean, she's a terrific person. She's one of my oldest friends, but there is something of the Puritan in her. 20 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:19,560 And when you combine that with where she studied, not many people have heard of her school. 21 00:02:19,620 --> 00:02:21,120 It's in San Gabriel, California. 22 00:02:21,460 --> 00:02:25,360 It's called the General George S. Patton Conservatory of Music, 23 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:30,120 and they have a very strict approach to musical interpretation, to put it mildly. 24 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:44,660 Anyway, Laurie's met this guy, he's a violist and she really likes him, but they've played music together and she worries that his rather romantic playing style is a sign of terminal decadence, or at least mental fungus. 25 00:02:45,260 --> 00:02:52,020 And I've tried to convince her that there are times when it's okay for string players to be a little loose with intonation. 26 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,960 And there are times when sliding from one note to another can be effective and affecting. 27 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,720 There are times when having some roughness in your tone is emotionally appropriate. 28 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,100 And another thing... 29 00:03:04,700 --> 00:03:08,480 That's right, I have more to say on this subject, even if Laurie isn't listening. 30 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,260 Actually, I've tried to call her a couple of times this week, but she's never home, which I take to be a good sign. 31 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,460 But let's talk about ensemble. 32 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:22,660 In school, if you play in a group or sing in a chorus, they're always drilling you about being together. 33 00:03:22,660 --> 00:03:31,240 I remember a conductor who in rehearsals wouldn't go beyond the first measure until everyone came in together, even if it took 20 starts. 34 00:03:31,740 --> 00:03:39,780 Now that's fine. Ensemble is important. And it can even be thrilling to hear really tight ensemble work from a large aggregation. 35 00:03:39,860 --> 00:03:46,620 I'm not saying that groups should turn their collective backs on the exhilarating sting of synchronicity. 36 00:03:46,620 --> 00:03:52,140 We're not the police, and sometimes following the letter of the law is not the most expressive 37 00:03:52,140 --> 00:03:52,940 way to go. 38 00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:58,600 Listen to this recording of Mischa Elman, one of the great violinists of the first half 39 00:03:58,600 --> 00:03:59,560 of the 20th century. 40 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:06,480 This is just two people, violin and piano, but if you listen carefully, and by the way, 41 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:12,640 on this program, if you want to extract the absolutely maximum amount of hard-won wisdom 42 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:20,920 from the observations of your omniscient intellectual guide and companion, you sometimes have to not listen for enjoyment. 43 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:27,180 You have to focus very narrowly on the matter at hand. If you want to enjoy music, you can go 44 00:04:27,180 --> 00:04:36,400 somewhere else. There are plenty of places you can go to enjoy music. Gin mills, football fields, elevators. 45 00:04:36,500 --> 00:04:42,460 But anyway, in this excerpt, if you listen very carefully, you'll notice 46 00:04:42,460 --> 00:04:45,400 that the violin and the piano are almost never together. 47 00:04:45,980 --> 00:04:50,420 It's not so obvious at first, but a little bit into the song, the violin and the piano 48 00:04:50,420 --> 00:04:53,060 are changing notes every beat, sort of like a hymn. 49 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,940 And on practically every note, the violin comes in ahead of the piano. 50 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:50,380 [music excerpt: Mendelssohn, "O For the Wings of a Dove"; Mischa Elman] 51 00:05:50,380 --> 00:05:56,780 Part of a transcription of a Mendelssohn song, O For the Wings of a Dove, played by Mischa 52 00:05:56,780 --> 00:05:59,040 Elman and Marcel van Gool. 53 00:05:59,660 --> 00:06:03,260 So why does Elman keep jumping the gun on the pianist? 54 00:06:03,260 --> 00:06:06,000 Is the pianist coming in late all the time? 55 00:06:06,140 --> 00:06:08,200 Are they incapable of getting it together? 56 00:06:08,500 --> 00:06:09,440 Of course not. 57 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,260 Mischa could play exactly together with Marcel if he wanted to. 58 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,380 But there are two reasons he doesn't want to. 59 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,680 One of them has to do with being a prima donna, or, if you prefer, a primo donno. 60 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,720 I went to a concert of Elman's once when I was a teenager in Fargo. 61 00:06:25,820 --> 00:06:31,300 I can't pretend to remember it in detail, but I do remember that Beethoven's Kreutzer Sonata was on the program. 62 00:06:31,300 --> 00:06:50,100 The slow movement of that piece is a theme in variations, and the first variation is very definitely in the pianist's hands. All the violinist has is little repeated note figures that are incontestably accompanimental. Here's a bit of it played by Pinchas Zukerman and Marc Neikrug. 63 00:06:50,820 --> 00:07:14,130 [music excerpt: Beethoven, Sonata No. 9, Opus 47 (“Kreutzer”); Pinchas Zukerman] 64 00:07:14,130 --> 00:07:20,810 Now, Pinchas Zukerman acknowledges that his part is accompanimental and plays it lightly and in the background. 65 00:07:20,810 --> 00:07:38,810 But not Mischa Elman, no way Jose. His supposedly accompanimental repeated note figures were right out in front, loud and clear, and he was emoting, grimacing, and sighing and bobbing around as if he were playing the cadenza of a romantic violin concerto. 66 00:07:39,310 --> 00:07:48,730 Similarly, starting a supposedly synchronous note a fraction of a second before the pianist quite literally keeps you out in front. 67 00:07:48,730 --> 00:07:53,530 It keeps the spotlight on you, and that's something that Elman knew a lot about. 68 00:07:53,910 --> 00:07:58,270 But it isn't the only reason he shunned precision when it came to ensemble. 69 00:07:58,850 --> 00:08:05,210 Elman was a romantic violinist through and through, and to a real romantic, tidiness 70 00:08:05,210 --> 00:08:05,990 is a sin. 71 00:08:07,130 --> 00:08:13,420 Now nobody, even in today's comparatively straitlaced classical music world, plays 72 00:08:13,420 --> 00:08:32,180 a piece exactly as it appears on the page with respect to tempo, dynamics, and ensemble. But players in the 19th century Romantic tradition were especially free of restraint. They wanted to project a sense of unfettered emotion and precise coordination smacked of fetters. 73 00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:42,400 This was true even when only a single performer was involved. Here are two performances of the same Chopin prelude, both by very able pianists. 74 00:08:43,420 --> 00:08:49,520 Listen very carefully to the coordination between each pianist's right hand and left hand. 75 00:08:50,020 --> 00:08:55,860 For most of this piece, every note in the melody begins on paper simultaneously with 76 00:08:55,860 --> 00:08:57,480 an accompaniment note in the left hand. 77 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,160 And the first pianist we'll hear sticks pretty closely to that. 78 00:09:01,540 --> 00:09:06,900 But the second pianist hardly ever begins notes simultaneously in both hands. 79 00:09:07,460 --> 00:09:14,720 It's not that he couldn't play them together, it's just that doing so would have been against his religion, which was romanticism. 80 00:09:15,480 --> 00:11:27,160 [music excerpt: Chopin, 24 Preludes, Opus 28, No. 4; Grigory Sokolov] 81 00:11:37,180 --> 00:13:37,240 [music excerpt: Chopin, 24 Preludes, Opus 28, No. 4 (Bolet at Carnegie Hall); Jorge Bolet] 82 00:13:38,980 --> 00:13:47,540 Chopin's Prelude in E Minor, Opus 28, No. 4, played first by Grigory Sokolov and then by Jorge Bolet. 83 00:13:48,180 --> 00:13:56,800 But not letting your right hand know what your left hand is doing, as it were, is small potatoes compared to what romantic conductors used to do. 84 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:03,240 They would make large cuts in pieces, they would reorchestrate passages, and even rewrite notes. 85 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:11,380 But they're all pikers, in the cavalier treatment of the printed page department, compared to pop, folk, and jazz musicians. 86 00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:17,060 In the non-classical world, most performers wouldn't be caught dead doing a song exactly 87 00:14:17,060 --> 00:14:20,920 as it's written, nor would the song's composer expect them to do so. 88 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,880 Pop songs are generally notated in one of two ways. 89 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:31,160 The composer, or someone working for him, writes the song down in a very simple, straightforward way, 90 00:14:31,220 --> 00:14:37,540 or if a singer-songwriter has recorded a song, somebody might be hired to write the song down as performed. 91 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:45,340 In either case, it's assumed that another artist will take considerable liberties, especially in terms of rhythm. 92 00:14:46,100 --> 00:14:52,140 It took me, as a classically trained musician, quite a long time to learn to relax about 93 00:14:52,140 --> 00:14:54,280 notating my non-classical songs. 94 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,480 I have to admit that they're not covered by other artists very often, but when they are, 95 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,920 there's no reason they should be sung exactly as I sing them. 96 00:15:03,420 --> 00:15:08,500 You know, I've had occasion to be in a certain hotel in a nearby town several times recently 97 00:15:08,500 --> 00:15:13,340 to, uh, well, the reason's not important, but the last time I was there, I snuck a 98 00:15:13,340 --> 00:15:18,620 little tape recorder into the cocktail lounge, because they have someone there who has got 99 00:15:18,620 --> 00:15:23,280 to be the dweebiest pianist in the history of piano-dom. 100 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:37,480 The sign at the entrance to the lounge says, The Piano Stylings of Mr. S. And I have to figure that the S stands for square. In fact, they should write his initial with a little 2 above it and to the right of it. 101 00:15:37,900 --> 00:15:47,360 I'm going to play you his rendition of Fool's Rush In. Now, I have the sheet music for Fool's Rush In, and he plays it exactly as written. 102 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:54,160 He doesn't swing any of the eighth notes, and the last notes of the phrases fall right on the downbeats as written. 103 00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:57,440 Then I'll play Frank Sinatra's version of the song. 104 00:15:57,940 --> 00:16:00,560 Now here again, you've got to listen very narrowly. 105 00:16:00,580 --> 00:16:06,420 Listen carefully to the bass, which plays mostly on the strong beats, and Sinatra's voice. 106 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,600 Unlike Elman, Frank is usually behind the beat. 107 00:16:11,020 --> 00:16:14,120 The album is called Nice and Easy, after all. 108 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:19,600 And on the last notes of phrases, he'll sometimes be almost two beats late. 109 00:16:20,180 --> 00:16:25,080 In fact, on the first time through the song before the instrumental interlude, the only 110 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:30,080 time he lands on the downbeat right with the orchestra is on the very last note. 111 00:16:30,300 --> 00:16:31,920 Pretty satisfying, actually. 112 00:16:32,420 --> 00:16:37,180 And notice that in the interlude, the flute and celesta play the melody very straight, 113 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:43,340 like Mr. Square Squared, really, but here it has the effect of contrasting nicely with 114 00:16:43,420 --> 00:16:49,160 the singer's very free rendition, Fools rush in, not once, but twice. 115 00:16:50,520 --> 00:18:30,900 [music] 116 00:18:31,000 --> 00:21:50,780 [music: Bloom/Mercer, "Fools Rush In" (Nice ’n’ Easy); Frank Sinatra] 117 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,440 Fools, as you may have gathered, rush in. 118 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:01,720 First we heard one of the piano stylings of piano stylist Mr. S., currently in residence 119 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:07,200 at the, well he's a cocktail pianist, and then Frank Sinatra, backed by the conductor 120 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,140 and arranger Nelson Riddle. 121 00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:15,430 What's the difference between a headline about gullible investors and a headline about the 122 00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:36,420 and a headline about the only person ever to take advantage of Joseph Stalin? Well, one says, fools rush in, and the other says, fools Russian. Yeah, I did. I made that up myself. There's a lot more where that came from, too. Here's my card. I'm Peter Schickele, and this show is Schickele Mix from PRI, Public Radio International. 123 00:22:37,860 --> 00:22:57,990 When Mr. Wrong is Mr. Right, Part 2. We're talking about admonitions that should be taken with a grain of salt when it comes to musical training. And here's a guy who is so put off by excessive precision in ensembles that he calls his composition slop. 124 00:22:58,800 --> 00:27:32,220 [music: Mingus, "Slop" (Mingus Dynasty); Charles Mingus] 125 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:44,380 Charles Mingus. The tune is called Slop from the Mingus Dynasty album. The West Point marching band it ain't, but right on it is. 126 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,400 Now, here's another example of creative sloppiness. 127 00:27:48,740 --> 00:27:52,640 This is a chart I did for a Joan Baez album called Baptism. 128 00:27:53,420 --> 00:27:57,140 She's reading a cool but compassionate poem about blood. 129 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:03,200 And to go with it, I wrote a slow-moving, unaccompanied melody that is played in unison 130 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,780 but eventually over five octaves by a string orchestra. 131 00:28:06,780 --> 00:28:34,300 At a certain point I stopped conducting, and I had told the players that when I did that, they should gradually get out of sync. Some started playing a bit faster and some a bit slower, and they kept playing on their own, disregarding everybody else, until I cut them off at the end. It's an effect that would have been virtually impossible, and certainly unnecessarily complicated, to achieve with precise notation. 132 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,300 [music: Schickele, "Song In the Blood" (Baptism); Joan Baez] 133 00:28:40,380 --> 00:28:46,620 [Joan Baez, recorded:] There are great puddles of blood on the world. Where's it all going, all this spilled blood? 134 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:57,040 [Joan Baez, recorded:] Is it the earth that drinks it and gets drunk? Funny kind of drunkography, then, so wise, so monotonous. 135 00:28:57,980 --> 00:29:06,900 [Joan Baez, recorded:] No, the earth doesn't get drunk. The earth doesn't turn askew. It pushes its little car regularly, its four seasons: 136 00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:12,520 [Joan Baez, recorded:] rain, snow, hail, fair weather. 137 00:29:13,740 --> 00:29:21,220 [Joan Baez, recorded:] Never is it drunk. It's with difficulty it permits itself from time to time an unhappy little volcano. 138 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:32,660 [Joan Baez, recorded:] It turns, the earth. It turns with its trees, its gardens, its houses. It turns with its great pools of blood, 139 00:29:32,660 --> 00:29:47,160 [Joan Baez, recorded:] and all living things turn with it and bleed. It doesn't give a damn, the earth. It turns, and all living things set up a howl. It doesn't give a damn. 140 00:29:47,160 --> 00:30:01,580 [Joan Baez, recorded:] It turns. It doesn't stop turning. And the blood doesn't stop running. Where's it going, all this spilled blood? Murder's blood, war's blood, misery's blood, 141 00:30:01,580 --> 00:30:14,760 [Joan Baez, recorded:] and the blood of men tortured in prisons, and the blood of children calmly tortured by their papa and their mom, and the blood of men whose heads bleed in padded cells, 142 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:28,260 [Joan Baez, recorded:] and the roofer's blood when the roofer slips and falls from the roof, and the blood that comes and flows in great gushes with the newborn, with the new baby. The mother cries, the baby cries, 143 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:43,720 [Joan Baez, recorded:] the blood flows, the earth turns, the earth doesn't stop turning, the blood doesn't stop flowing. Where's it going, all this spilled blood? Blood of the blackjacked, of the humiliated, 144 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:52,300 [Joan Baez, recorded:] the blood of the wounded, of suicides, of firing squad victims, of the condemned, and the blood of those that die just 145 00:30:52,300 --> 00:31:07,940 [Joan Baez, recorded:] like that, by accident. In the street a living being goes by with all his blood inside. Suddenly there he is, dead, and all his blood outside. And other living beings make the blood disappear. They carry 146 00:31:07,940 --> 00:31:24,260 [Joan Baez, recorded:] the body away, but it's stubborn, the blood, and there where the dead one was, much later, all black, a little blood still stretches. Coagulated blood, life's rust, body's rust, blood curdled like milk, 147 00:31:24,260 --> 00:31:42,360 [Joan Baez, recorded:] like milk when it turns, when it turns like the earth, like the earth that turns with its milk, with its cows, with its living, with its dead, the earth that turns with its trees, with its 148 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:59,340 [Joan Baez, recorded:] living beings, its houses, the earth that turns with marriages, burials, shells, regiments, the earth that turns and turns and turns with its great streams of blood. 149 00:33:02,750 --> 00:33:10,590 Joan Baez, reading Song in the Blood by Jacques Prévert, translated by Lawrence Ferlinghetti, 150 00:33:10,590 --> 00:33:20,410 To music written by a composer whom I knew quite well almost three decades ago but haven't seen since, the 33-year-old Peter Schickele. 151 00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:32,970 Okay, let's leave the subject of ensemble and look at wrong notes, or rather listen to them, or rather listen to some right notes that could be looked at or listened to as wrong. 152 00:33:33,650 --> 00:33:40,190 Now, not only do copyists make mistakes, but so do composers, and you have to correct those mistakes when you find them. 153 00:33:40,190 --> 00:33:46,410 I'm a lousy proofreader myself, and even my published music has its share of boo-boos, 154 00:33:46,450 --> 00:33:51,790 so-called because there are ghosts who sneak in and change the notes from what you wanted. 155 00:33:52,350 --> 00:33:57,910 But history is full of examples of composers writing pieces that caused some listeners 156 00:33:57,910 --> 00:34:00,330 to say, this can't be what you meant. 157 00:34:00,950 --> 00:34:04,950 Here's the beginning of Mozart's String Quartet in C, K465. 158 00:34:05,170 --> 00:34:21,290 This passage may not sound unsettling to ears that have heard Mahler and Monk and Messiaen, but it was so far out in 1785 that when the quartet was published, some purchasers sent the parts back, saying that there were too many mistakes in them. 159 00:34:22,320 --> 00:35:42,700 [music excerpt: Mozart, String Quartet in C (K 465), “Dissonance”; Emerson String Quartet] 160 00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:49,100 The Emerson Quartet, with the beginning of Mozart's C major quartet, Köchel No. 465. 161 00:35:49,620 --> 00:35:54,900 Because of that opening, the quartet has acquired the nickname Dissonant or Dissonances. 162 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,340 These nicknames. 163 00:35:56,820 --> 00:36:02,240 I don't know why the next one Mozart wrote isn't called String Quartet No. 20 in D major, 164 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,920 the Perfectly Fine Sounding. 165 00:36:04,940 --> 00:36:08,160 Here's another famous example of Mr. Wrong being Mr. Right. 166 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,700 Beethoven's Third Symphony begins like this. 167 00:36:12,620 --> 00:36:35,580 [music excerpt: Beethoven, Symphony No. 3 in E-flat, Opus 55; London Classical Players/Norrington] 168 00:36:35,580 --> 00:36:42,680 Just before the recapitulation, as the violins play trembling, unresolved notes, there's 169 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,500 a French horn anticipation, a sort of a pre-shadow of that main theme. 170 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,660 But what makes it really unusual is that the notes in the theme spell out a chord that's 171 00:36:53,660 --> 00:36:59,140 different from the incomplete chord the violins are playing, so that in a sense you've got 172 00:36:59,140 --> 00:37:02,560 two different chords going on simultaneously. 173 00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:29,600 [music excerpt: Beethoven, Symphony No. 3 in E-flat, Opus 55, first movement, horn entrance before the recapitulation; London Classical Players/Norrington] 174 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:56,040 Now, one of the critics after the first performance of the Eroica Symphony by Beethoven wrote that the first movement had been marred by the horn coming in early. And it's easy to see why. In fact, it's a perfectly reasonable assumption. Two bars later and the horn would have been right there in unison with the cellos. But it's great the way Beethoven wrote it, oddly enough. Well, here's an example of a right note that's supposed to sound wrong. 175 00:37:56,580 --> 00:38:00,860 Most of us know the sound of string players playing their open strings when they're tuning 176 00:38:00,860 --> 00:38:01,160 up. 177 00:38:01,540 --> 00:38:07,060 So when Saint-Saëns asks a violin soloist to tune the top string a half step lower 178 00:38:07,060 --> 00:38:12,400 than usual, he does it because he wants it to sound wrong, in the sense of macabre. 179 00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:18,420 In fact, the interval produced between the two top strings, called a tritone, used to 180 00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:20,140 be known as the Devil's Interval. 181 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:28,540 We'll start with a little hoedown music, so you can get the sound of the usual string tuning in your ears, and then we'll move on to the macabre. 182 00:38:29,380 --> 00:38:54,900 [music excerpt: Hayman, "Pops Hoedown" (Round-Up); Cincinnati Pops Orchestra/Kunzel] 183 00:38:57,000 --> 00:40:24,120 [music excerpt: Saint-Saëns, "Danse Macabre"; Philadelphia Orchestra/Ormandy] 184 00:40:24,260 --> 00:40:34,520 Shiver me timbers. First we heard the opening of Richard Hayman's Pops Hoedown, played by Kunzel in the Cincinnati Pops, and then part of the Danse Macabre by Saint-Saëns. 185 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:40,640 That was Ormandy in the Philadelphia, but it doesn't give the name of the violinist. 186 00:40:41,220 --> 00:40:43,500 Maybe it's because he or she wasn't gay. 187 00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:48,540 See, the record store in my neighborhood doesn't have much in the way of classical music, and 188 00:40:48,540 --> 00:40:53,320 the only recording of the danse macabre I could find was in an album called Out Classics 189 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:59,820 II, music by composers who were gay or are assumed by the compilers of the album to have 190 00:40:59,820 --> 00:41:04,360 been gay because there's no evidence to the contrary, which is apparently the case with 191 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:34,260 Corelli. Whatever these albums do for the cause of gay pride, they are widely recognized as triumphs of packaging. And during these straitened times in the classical record industry, I think we can look forward to albums like In Classics, music written by composers with concave belly buttons, and Puff Classics, music written by smokers, and Yokel Classics, music written by American composers who did not study with Nadia Boulanger 192 00:41:34,260 --> 00:41:52,440 in Paris. I'd like to see an album called P.J. Classics, music by composers in their 60s who still eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Because probably the only composer on the album would be Peter Schickele, the host of Schickele Mix, from P.R.I., Public Radio International. 193 00:41:55,010 --> 00:42:00,370 Ok, now it's time to play our quiz game, when Mr. Wrong is Mr. Right. 194 00:42:01,010 --> 00:42:04,270 And, uh, I think we've got a contestant on the line here, hello? 195 00:42:04,770 --> 00:42:05,870 Hi, what's your name? 196 00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:08,410 Ok, Jalinda, here's the deal. 197 00:42:08,830 --> 00:42:15,750 I'm gonna play a chord, a single chord, and it may sound wrong to you, but it's exactly what the composer wrote. 198 00:42:16,030 --> 00:42:22,600 Now all you have to do, for $1500, is guess what year the chord was written in. 199 00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:25,460 Okay, you ready? Here goes. 200 00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:33,390 [music excerpt: Rebel, "Les Elémens," opening chord; Musica Antiqua Köln/Goebel] 201 00:42:33,390 --> 00:42:36,230 So, Jalinda, what year do you think that chord was written in? 202 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,500 Oh, I'm sorry, Jalinda. 203 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,420 The correct answer, and it's a very surprising one, is 1737. 204 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:52,080 That's...well, we do allow a bit of leeway, Jalinda, but 37 BC is really quite far off, 205 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:52,780 I think you'll agree. 206 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,440 So better luck next time. 207 00:42:54,440 --> 00:43:22,820 And meanwhile, we'll be sending you your consolation prize, which is a CD of, uh, well, the subtitle is Three Centuries of Neglected Keyboard Masterpieces by Lully, Schobert, and Alkan, but the album is called Ouch Classics, music by composers who died from stabbing themselves in the foot with their own baton, or from eating poisonous mushrooms at a picnic, or from having a bookcase fall over on them. Thanks for being with us, Jalinda. 208 00:43:22,820 --> 00:43:26,220 Okay, so what did you guess on that chord? 209 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:32,820 The thing that makes 1737 such an unlikely answer is that the chord is really sort of 210 00:43:32,820 --> 00:43:33,580 a tone cluster. 211 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,360 It has all seven notes of the D minor scale in it. 212 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,260 And tone clusters weren't really developed until the 20th century. 213 00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:49,760 But in 1737, a French composer named Jean-Féry Rebel wrote a piece called The Elements, and 214 00:43:49,780 --> 00:43:54,360 that chord is the beginning of the remarkable first section, which represents chaos. 215 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,940 Let me play it again. I'll let it go on a bit longer this time. 216 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:27,230 [music excerpt: Rebel, "Les Elémens," opening (again); Musica Antiqua Köln/Goebel] 217 00:44:27,230 --> 00:44:32,490 Okay, once it starts going in unison and you hear the harpsichord there, then it sounds 18th century. 218 00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:35,530 But before that, it sounds like movie music, doesn't it? 219 00:44:35,910 --> 00:44:41,210 In fact, it makes me want to present one of our exclusive Schickele Mix radio dramas. 220 00:44:42,050 --> 00:44:51,860 Now, I never went to sleepaway camp myself, but my friend Bob Lewis did, and he once told me one of the scary campfire stories he remembered from his youth. 221 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:58,200 So here, with music from Rebel's The Elements, is the world premiere of 222 00:44:58,300 --> 00:45:04,100 [music excerpt: Rebel, "Les Elémens"; Musica Antiqua Köln/Goebel] 223 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,740 The Secret of Morley Mansion. 224 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:19,020 Trent Cartwell, dashing young man about town, has decided to become a dashing young man 225 00:45:19,020 --> 00:45:19,740 about country. 226 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:28,280 For the first time since he purchased it from Silas Morley's estate, he is visiting the crumbling 200-year-old mansion 227 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,940 that rises above the mists of Parkway Fen. 228 00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:52,120 I don't know. Maybe I shouldn't have bought this place after all. Everybody says it's haunted. Something about a guy who can turn himself into a snake. I mean, not that I believe in that stuff. What's that? That door's opening. It must just be a draft. No! 229 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,100 There's someone behind it! 230 00:46:00,210 --> 00:46:02,200 I am the Viper! 231 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,700 No! Stay where you are! Who are you? 232 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,800 I am the Viper! 233 00:46:20,020 --> 00:46:21,160 What do you want from me? 234 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,960 No! Don't take another step! I own this house! 235 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,800 Why are you here? 236 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,060 I am the Viper! 237 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,500 You want your windows viped? 238 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:57,940 And that was Reinhard Goebel and the Musica Antiqua Köln performing excerpts from Rebel's The Elements. 239 00:46:57,940 --> 00:47:01,440 When Wrong Notes Happen to Right People, whatever that means. 240 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:10,040 Back around 1960, when I used to subscribe to Downbeat magazine, there were always letter-to-the-editor 241 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:15,960 fights about the Downbeat jazz poll, especially in the piano category. When Thelonious Monk 242 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,900 won, somebody would write in saying, it's about time a pianist won who's not just a 243 00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:27,500 technician. And when Oscar Peterson won, somebody would say, finally, the prize goes to someone who can 244 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:35,200 actually play piano. It's lucky for the less partisan among us that one doesn't have to choose between those two giants. 245 00:47:35,370 --> 00:47:44,270 It's true that Peterson's fingers seem virtually incapable of playing a clunker, whereas Monk's playing is full of clunkers. 246 00:47:44,410 --> 00:47:48,730 That is, it's full of notes that would be clunkers in anybody else's playing. 247 00:47:49,230 --> 00:47:55,110 But Monk built his whole style around right and wrong notes, by which I mean nice notes 248 00:47:55,110 --> 00:47:56,190 and not-so-nice notes. 249 00:47:56,190 --> 00:48:00,910 He reminds me of the British painter Francis Bacon, who said something like, 250 00:48:00,970 --> 00:48:03,350 A mistake is your unconscious speaking. 251 00:48:04,130 --> 00:48:13,310 Monk's style was often an unlikely fusion of smooth, old-fashioned stride piano in the left hand and spiky bebop in the right. 252 00:48:14,260 --> 00:48:17,800 But you can feel him straining against the limits of his technique. 253 00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:22,820 Peterson, on the other hand, seems to be able to do just about anything he wants. 254 00:48:22,820 --> 00:48:26,140 Here's the two of them in no particular order. 255 00:48:26,140 --> 00:51:54,800 [music: Waller/Razaf, "Honeysuckle Rose" (Live at the Blue Note); Oscar Peterson Trio] 256 00:51:58,640 --> 00:54:25,260 [music: Lewis/Young/Akst, "Dinah" (Solo Monk); Thelonious Monk] 257 00:54:25,830 --> 00:54:32,030 Oscar Peterson with Honeysuckle Rose and Thelonious Monk playing Dinah. 258 00:54:33,050 --> 00:54:34,890 Like I said, if the- 259 00:54:34,890 --> 00:54:36,780 [sound: phone rings] Sorry about this. 260 00:54:37,300 --> 00:54:37,940 Hello? 261 00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:40,960 Hey Laurie, I'm glad you called. 262 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,540 So how are things going with this guy you met, this violist? 263 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,240 Oh, that's terrific. 264 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:49,280 Oh yeah? 265 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:54,260 So he's loosening you up a bit as a musician, huh? 266 00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:02,320 Oh, well, I guess that would do it, playing a Bach partita on the piano while you're sitting on his lap. 267 00:55:02,900 --> 00:55:10,460 I mean, the angle of your arms to the keyboard is different, and I guess it's a little bit harder to reach the sustaining pedal, which is probably for the... 268 00:55:10,810 --> 00:55:19,010 Oh, I see. He does the pedaling. Okay. Sort of like a piano built for two, right? Great. 269 00:55:19,010 --> 00:55:23,890 Hey, Laurie, I gotta wrap things up here, but give me a call. You're never home, you know. 270 00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:28,470 Yeah, that's what I figured. Okay, I will. Take care. 271 00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:34,030 And take good care of that friend of yours, too. Because you know what happens when a violist dies. 272 00:55:34,850 --> 00:55:37,970 They move him back a stand. Okay, bye. 273 00:55:39,780 --> 00:56:03,800 [music: Lewis/Young/Akst, "Dinah" (Solo Monk); Thelonious Monk (again)] 274 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,020 And that's Schickele Mix for this week. 275 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:12,700 Our program is made possible with funds provided by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and by the National Endowment for the Arts, 276 00:56:12,700 --> 00:56:16,560 with additional support from the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences 277 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,180 and from this radio station and its members. 278 00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:23,900 Not only that, our program is distributed by PRI, Public Radio International. 279 00:56:24,380 --> 00:56:26,960 And thanks for your help, Stephanie Wendt. 280 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,500 We'll tell you in a moment how you can get an official playlist of all the music on today's program 281 00:56:31,500 --> 00:56:32,900 with album numbers and everything. 282 00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:34,820 Just refer to the program number. 283 00:56:34,980 --> 00:56:37,660 This is program number 145. 284 00:56:38,260 --> 00:56:44,840 And this is Peter Schickele saying goodbye and reminding you that it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that certain je ne sais quoi. 285 00:56:45,180 --> 00:56:47,380 You're looking good. See you next week. 286 00:56:47,880 --> 00:58:07,260 [music: Lewis/Young/Akst, "Dinah" (Solo Monk); Thelonious Monk (again)] 287 00:58:09,130 --> 00:58:14,630 If you'd like a copy of that playlist I mentioned, send a stamped self-addressed envelope to Schickele Mix. 288 00:58:15,210 --> 00:58:19,530 That's S-C-H-I-C-K-E-L-E, Schickele Mix. 289 00:58:19,530 --> 00:58:27,610 Care of Public Radio International, 100 North 6th Street, Suite 900A, Minneapolis, MN 55403. 290 00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:34,060 [announcer:] PRI, Public Radio International.