1 00:00:00,180 --> 00:00:03,300 God willing and the creek don't rise. Here's the theme. 2 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:30,840 Hello there, I'm Peter Shickley, and this is Shickley Mix, a program dedicated to the proposition that all musics are created equal. Or as Duke Ellington put it, if it sounds good, it is good. 3 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:40,520 And this would be a very good time to mention that our bills are paid by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and by the National Endowment for the Arts, 4 00:00:40,980 --> 00:00:48,120 with additional support from the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, as well as from this ever-loving radio station right here, 5 00:00:48,260 --> 00:00:55,020 where I am put up and put up with until I come up with something fit to be broadcast and fit to be tied, 6 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:07,220 if I may be permitted a metaphor, up in ribbons and distributed hither and yon by PRI, Public Radio International. I can't remember if I've told you this before, 7 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:15,540 stop me if I have, but I used to play bassoon in the Central High School band of Fargo, North Dakota. First bassoon, I'll have you know. 8 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:22,900 In fact, I hate to boast, but I played first and only bassoon for much of my tenure at Central High. 9 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:36,220 I must admit, though, that it wasn't the most exciting musical experience of my life, because in high school band arrangements, everything the bassoons play is doubled by the saxophones or horns. 10 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:48,740 The best days were when the regular band teacher was sick, and we had a substitute. Since he didn't know us, this was an ideal opportunity for some of us to play instruments we didn't play, 11 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:59,260 and I usually picked up a trombone. The basic concept of the trombone is so simple. You lower the slide, and it lowers the note. 12 00:02:00,100 --> 00:02:07,140 You know, up until the invention of valves, which was in the 19th century, the trombone was the only brass instrument, 13 00:02:07,140 --> 00:02:16,320 that could play the full chromatic scale without resorting to quite literally underhanded tricks, such as those employed by horn players. 14 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:27,460 Because of its unique construction, it is the only standard wind instrument that takes naturally to the technique of glissando, sliding from one note to the next. 15 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:41,100 Now, composers wrote trombone music for centuries without, as far as I know, taking advantage of this ability. It was probably only done as a part of it, as a party trick, you know, by sack-butt players with lampshades on their heads. 16 00:02:41,300 --> 00:02:53,620 But during the last hundred years, it has become something like women smoking cigars, that is done quite openly, public opinion be damned. It is often used for humorous effect. 17 00:02:54,020 --> 00:03:06,600 When Bartok wanted to express his reaction to hearing Shostakovich's Seventh Symphony for the first time, he first quoted the symphony in the clarinet, then laughed derisively in the trumpets, 18 00:03:07,140 --> 00:03:11,160 and then offered a carefully worded comment via the trombone. 19 00:03:36,670 --> 00:03:49,540 That was a bit of Bartok's concerto for orchestra. But I think it was the brash approach of early jazz that made sliding around on the trombone a standard technique rather than an occasional novelty. 20 00:03:50,230 --> 00:03:57,840 Although I do believe that this next selection, which features the trombone section, qualifies as what they call a novelty number. 21 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:28,920 That was Lassus Trombone by Fillmore. I don't know why it's called Lassus Trombone, and I don't know if Fillmore also wrote a piece called Palestrina Trumpet or Gesualdo Tuba, 22 00:06:29,060 --> 00:06:41,320 but it was performed on an old... I have no idea how it came by this. It's an old LP entitled Exciting Sounds of the Norad Cavalcade of Music. 23 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:53,880 That was the Norad Pops Concert Band, under the direction of Major... Victor J. Molzer. Norad is either an abbreviation for North American Air Defense Command, 24 00:06:54,080 --> 00:07:03,440 or it's part of a dictum no longer followed by the New Yorker. Neither cartoon nor ad shall seriously impede the flow of editorial content. 25 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:16,140 Anyway, the word glissando is often used to indicate sliding over a fairly large interval. Daaaaaaaah. But it doesn't have to be restricted to that sense. 26 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:25,720 I would call, as in, you could call that a half-step glissando. 27 00:07:26,220 --> 00:07:33,600 Now, here are three instruments of the guitar family that characteristically move much or even most of the time by glissando. 28 00:07:34,220 --> 00:07:43,440 When you play the pedal steel guitar and the Hawaiian guitar, you pluck the strings with the fingers of your right hand as usual, either directly or with picks. 29 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:55,140 But you do not stop the strings, that is, press down on them, with the fingers of your left hand. Your left hand holds a metal bar, which you slide around on the strings to change notes or chords. 30 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:06,300 The pedal steel guitar is that whiny instrument you hear in country songs. It's the musical embodiment of heartbreak. It's misery made audible. 31 00:08:06,860 --> 00:08:15,880 In my younger years, when I thought that hearts didn't belong on sleeves, I couldn't stand that sound. But now I love it. At least in the hands of a tasteful player. 32 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:31,200 In fact, one of the things I love now about the pedal steel is that I've seen it played quite a bit, and the guys who play it, there they are, making these weepy, crying-in-your-beer sounds, and they're always the most unemotional guys in the room. 33 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:43,419 They look like a CPA going over the accounts of the First Congregational Church. Here's a pair of songs, one with pedal steel and one with Hawaiian guitar, separated by a piece featuring an instrument. 34 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:52,620 It's a one-of-a-kind instrument made by the composer of the piece. I call this suite, When in Doubt, Slide, and I'll see you in a little over six minutes. 35 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:12,960 Well, hello there. My, it's been a long, long time. 36 00:09:18,210 --> 00:09:24,690 How am I doing? Oh, I guess that I'm doing fine. 37 00:09:28,970 --> 00:09:30,910 It's been so long now. 38 00:09:32,330 --> 00:09:35,050 And it seems now. 39 00:09:36,770 --> 00:09:39,030 But it was only yesterday. 40 00:09:41,250 --> 00:09:42,690 Gee, ain't it funny 41 00:09:43,930 --> 00:09:48,070 how time slips away. 42 00:09:49,270 --> 00:09:55,080 How's your new love? 43 00:09:58,090 --> 00:10:00,210 I hope that he's doing fine. 44 00:10:04,780 --> 00:10:09,440 I heard you told him that you'd love him 45 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,840 till the end of time. 46 00:10:16,300 --> 00:10:22,440 Now that's the same thing. That you told me. 47 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,640 It seems like just the other day. 48 00:10:28,620 --> 00:10:30,060 Gee, ain't it funny 49 00:10:31,220 --> 00:10:35,460 how time slips away. 50 00:10:41,110 --> 00:10:53,870 I gotta go now. I guess I'll see you around. I don't know when, though. 51 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,700 Never know when I'll be back in town. 52 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:09,310 I don't know when, though. Never know when I'll be back in town. But remember what I tell you. Oh. 53 00:11:10,730 --> 00:11:14,090 That in time you're gonna pay. 54 00:11:14,870 --> 00:11:22,790 And it's surprising how time slips away. 55 00:11:24,970 --> 00:12:40,660 If I only had a little time. 56 00:12:40,660 --> 00:12:45,140 If I only had a little time. If I only had a little time. 57 00:14:41,290 --> 00:15:07,130 When in doubt, slide. 58 00:15:08,370 --> 00:15:18,070 Willie Nelson sang Funny How Time Slips Away. And then we heard part of And on the Seventh Day, Petals Fell in Petaluma by Harry Parch, 59 00:15:18,730 --> 00:15:30,030 played by the Gate Five Ensemble of Sausalito under the direction of the composer. Parch was a maverick who made his own instruments, often using things like surplus airplane fuel tanks, 60 00:15:30,470 --> 00:15:40,890 Pyrex chemical jars, and artillery shell casings. He divided the octave into 43 notes instead of the Western European 12 that most of us use. 61 00:15:41,370 --> 00:15:52,950 I'm not sure what the slidey instrument we heard was, but that's from a CRI CD called The Music of Harry Parch. And if you want to check him out, you pretty much have to do it via recordings, 62 00:15:53,610 --> 00:16:04,990 since the literally unique nature of his instruments means that live performances are hard to come by. And then the last number was Little Pad by the Beach Boys. 63 00:16:06,130 --> 00:16:14,150 You know, you're never going to believe this, but that was recorded in the 60s. That's right, back there when men were allowed to giggle, 64 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:26,250 and although boots were made for walking, grass was not made for walking on. Those guys sound like they were, and they probably were, way up there past the stratocumulus layer. 65 00:16:27,330 --> 00:16:33,410 I'll bet if you had asked Brian Wilson in the middle of that session what his name was, he would have said, 66 00:16:34,070 --> 00:16:42,970 Hey man, no sweat, I'm Peter Shickley, host of Shickley Mix from PRI. Hey, Public Radio International. 67 00:16:47,630 --> 00:17:00,470 Today's show is called Mondo Glissando. We're talking about slipping and sliding as a method of musical movement. And our next suite features three instruments that have no choice about how to get around. 68 00:17:01,110 --> 00:17:10,829 Unless they separate notes with a rest, that is, stop playing for a moment, the only way these instruments can go from one note to another is with a glissando. 69 00:17:11,430 --> 00:17:24,030 In the animal kingdom of instruments, these are the snails. They're snakes, but don't worry, they're not dangerous. The first, very brief excerpt, features a slide whistle, which is sort of a flute version of the trombone. 70 00:17:24,530 --> 00:17:35,330 It's often used for sound effects, but here it does a poignant imitation of a bird call. The second number is perhaps the most famous solo ever written for the bicycle siren. 71 00:17:35,650 --> 00:17:44,870 A siren attached to the rear wheel of a bicycle. The wheel is on a brace that lifts it off the floor. So the faster the player pedals, the higher it goes. 72 00:17:44,870 --> 00:17:56,810 The third and final selection features a pioneering electronic instrument called the theremin. There is no keyboard or fingerboard or valves or anything like that on a theremin. 73 00:17:56,970 --> 00:18:04,430 The performer determines the pitch by moving her right hand in the air closer to or farther from a vertical antenna, 74 00:18:04,730 --> 00:18:14,390 and the volume by moving her left hand in relation to a horizontal loop antenna. It sounds like a sort of an eerie female voice. 75 00:18:14,390 --> 00:18:26,310 And it's best known use was in the score for the Hitchcock movie Spellbound. So, there are several ways to go from one note to another, and sliding is one of those ways. 76 00:18:26,690 --> 00:18:38,150 Which is why I call this suite Slip Slidin' Away. Uh, away, away. Away is two words, right? 77 00:18:38,270 --> 00:18:45,330 I mean, it's like Slip Slidin', colon, away. As in, one of several words. There are several ways, see what I mean? 78 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:54,480 Well, I guess that's why Paul Simon gets to make movies, and all I get to do is a measly radio show. I'll be back in four minutes. 79 00:23:13,730 --> 00:23:26,130 Slip Slidin' Away. I think it's a great title, actually. But maybe it's not really perfect for radio. I mean, because the punctuation is actually such an important component. 80 00:23:26,550 --> 00:23:39,290 Oh, alright, alright. Can't really argue with the irrelevancy alarm on that one. Back to the suite. First we heard an excerpt from Ravel's opera L'Enfant et les Sortelages, The Child and the Sorceress. 81 00:23:39,410 --> 00:23:51,590 That was from the beginning of the garden scene, with the slide whistle doing a bird call. Then the second number was the second movement of P.D.Q. Bach's Pervertimento, for bagpipes, bicycle, and balloons. 82 00:23:52,150 --> 00:24:04,370 Although in that movement, which is marked Adagio Sereno, we hear only the bicycle and string orchestra, which was, by the way, the Royal P.D.Q. Bach Festival Orchestra under the baton of George Mester. 83 00:24:04,750 --> 00:24:13,210 The bicycle soloist was your humble host. And that's from the recent compilation The Dreaded P.D.Q. Bach Collection, Volume 1. 84 00:24:13,870 --> 00:24:24,130 Then finally we heard another work by Ravel, the Pièce en Forme de Habanera, which my French friend Jules Jean-Jacques tells me means Peace in the Form of a Habanera. 85 00:24:24,670 --> 00:24:37,030 It was performed by Clara Rockmore on the theremin, which is not what Ravel wrote it for, accompanied by her sister Nadia Risenberg on piano. And it's from a CD called The Art of the Theremin on Delos. 86 00:24:37,770 --> 00:24:50,670 The theremin was invented in 1920, but it never became widely used, partly because it's terribly difficult to play well. In fact, what you're trying to do most of the time is minimize the glissando effect. 87 00:24:51,270 --> 00:24:58,250 And also, let's face it, its tonal range, and I'm talking about the quality of the tone here, is very limited. 88 00:24:58,650 --> 00:25:09,030 It's like the celesta, or celeste, which is very effective in the dance of the sugarplum fairies, but, well, even if it had been invented a century earlier, 89 00:25:09,310 --> 00:25:19,890 I think it's highly unlikely that Beethoven would have written 32 celesta sonatas. Now, when I was talking about the trombone, I said it was the only standard wind instrument 90 00:25:19,890 --> 00:25:27,770 that takes naturally to the glissando technique, because of the fact that most pitch changes are accomplished by means of the trombone. And that's true of the strings of the slide, 91 00:25:27,890 --> 00:25:33,070 as opposed to the valves on other brass instruments and the finger holes on woodwind instruments. 92 00:25:33,890 --> 00:25:41,810 Valves and finger holes tend to produce very distinct, very well-defined and virtually instantaneous pitch changes. 93 00:25:42,490 --> 00:25:52,810 And the same is true of putting down or picking up fingers on the fingerboard of a string instrument. But that doesn't mean you can't slide on other instruments. It just takes a special technique. 94 00:25:52,810 --> 00:26:03,410 On string instruments, you slide one left-hand finger up or down the fingerboard, rather than changing fingers or strings. For instance, on bass guitar. 95 00:26:06,430 --> 00:26:12,770 Or on violins, viola, and cello. 96 00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:59,910 Those were from Bartok's 4th and 5th string quartets. Here's a pair of trumpet slides called half-valve glisses. You press the valves only half-way. 97 00:26:59,930 --> 00:27:07,350 Which puts you in a sort of a never-never land, pitch-wise speaking. And then you make the glissando with your lips. 98 00:27:17,850 --> 00:27:24,490 And here's probably the most famous glissando by an ordinarily non-glissando type instrument. 99 00:27:38,330 --> 00:27:47,770 Most clarinetists have a special reed that they use for the beginning of Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue. A soft reed. That enables them to bend the pitch. 100 00:27:47,910 --> 00:28:00,150 As they simultaneously open the finger holes as snakily as possible. And then of course, you can always change the pitch gradually by playing games with your tape recorder. 101 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:37,900 The Beach Boys. She's going bald. Which, like Little Pad, is from the Smiley Smiles. 102 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,880 Now, with the piano and the harp, glissando has a slightly different meaning. 103 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:56,680 Keyboard instruments, and also members of the harp and zither families, have one string, or set of strings, per note. So if, for instance, you take the index finger of your right hand. 104 00:28:57,740 --> 00:29:08,760 No, I suggest holding it fingernail down. That's right. And run it quickly up the white keys of the piano. What you get has a glissando-like feeling. Feels good, doesn't it? 105 00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:17,920 But you are not getting an actual continuum. A gradual, unsegmented rise in vibrations per second, as you would with a slide whistle. 106 00:29:18,460 --> 00:29:27,940 What you're getting is seven distinct notes per octave in rapid succession. It's a C major scale, that's all. So why is it called a glissando? 107 00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:39,460 Simply because you're using one finger, and can therefore play it faster than would be physically possible with traditional fingering. In fact, on the piano, you can only do two glisses. 108 00:29:39,860 --> 00:29:49,400 Or glissandi, if you want to be uptown about it. The white keys, which are the notes of a C major scale, and the black keys, which form a pentatonic scale. 109 00:29:50,420 --> 00:30:02,180 Pentatonic glisses are especially popular on the harp. This next suite features piano glisses in the first number, and harp glisses in the last. The middle section is from another Parch piece. 110 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:12,320 And he gets a wonderfully weird effect with one of his harp or zithers. Since he uses 43 tones to the octave instead of the usual 12, 111 00:30:12,740 --> 00:30:25,380 a glissando on this instrument is made up of separate, distinct notes, but they're so close together in pitch that they almost sound like a continuum. Virtual glissandos. 112 00:30:25,820 --> 00:30:36,220 In fact, that's a good name for this suite. But we'll show how educated we are by calling it virtual glissandi. I'll slip back in about six minutes. 113 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:50,080 There's the very old recording alert. So I guess I should mention that the first number is off of an old 45 RPM record, with one of those little plastic gizmos in the center. 114 00:30:50,180 --> 00:30:52,080 Not that that affects the fidelity. 115 00:30:53,640 --> 00:31:18,130 Could you spare me a few minutes of your time? 116 00:31:20,670 --> 00:31:28,890 I'm searching just like all the rest. For some peace of mind. 117 00:31:30,610 --> 00:31:39,310 I see me drifting further away from you each day. 118 00:31:40,610 --> 00:31:48,540 If you've got time to think I need. 119 00:32:05,970 --> 00:32:08,450 Look inside of my weary soul. 120 00:32:10,130 --> 00:32:19,120 See if I am worth the keep. If there's one chance for me, dear Lord. 121 00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:23,300 Please don't throw my soul away. 122 00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:29,120 If you've got time to listen, Lord. 123 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,340 I think I need to breathe. 124 00:32:42,940 --> 00:32:45,800 Let's get Ging up with Jerry Lee. 125 00:32:46,080 --> 00:33:03,730 I stopped and took a cold hard look. 126 00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:12,930 At my life today. If you've got time to listen. 127 00:33:18,460 --> 00:33:19,880 I think I need. 128 00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:29,990 Virtual glissandi. We began with Jerry Lee Lewis singing, I think I need to pray. Then came a section of Harry Parche's Wind Song with the composer overdubbing all the parts himself. 129 00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:40,850 And finally, an excerpt, the last part of a piece called Chu and Drum Playing at Sunset, traditional Chinese arranged by Zhao Zizhang, 130 00:36:41,550 --> 00:36:53,050 and performed by a group from the University of Arizona called Harp Fusion, which consists of ten, count them, ten harps. The CD is called The Trouble with Angels. 131 00:36:53,910 --> 00:37:01,810 You know, what I love about the Jerry Lee Lewis number is that those piano glisses don't really belong in a devotional song like that at all. 132 00:37:02,030 --> 00:37:13,810 But the gliss is so much his signature schtick that he's got to throw them in anyway. It's sort of like my signature schtick. You know, I can't go for more than 15 or 20 minutes without saying, 133 00:37:13,970 --> 00:37:19,990 I'm Peter Shickley, and the program is Shickley Mix from PRI, Public Radio International. 134 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:35,340 Mondo glissando, a bizarre world of slithering pitch. Where you never know when the ride is over, until it's over. 135 00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:46,880 Okay, what do trombonists and singers have in common? Two things, at least. They don't get no respect from real musicians, and they both play glissando instruments. 136 00:37:47,760 --> 00:38:00,040 That's right, the human voice is a glissando instrument. Vocal chords don't have frets on them. Tenors don't have valves, at least not on the outside. There are no fingerings for singers. 137 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:12,860 They slide from one note to the next. And a large part of their training consists of learning how to minimize the slide. That is, to change the tension of the vocal chords as instantaneously as possible, 138 00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:20,820 and to back off on the breathing during the change. One advantage singers have over theremin players is words. 139 00:38:21,220 --> 00:38:29,580 A consonant on the beginning of a syllable does wonders in covering up pitch changes, which is why you notice sliding more. 140 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:45,560 Then you do on, oh, a private buffoon is a light-hearted loon if you listen to popular rumor. Enough of me. Here's a very nicely sung bit of chant. 141 00:39:01,150 --> 00:39:12,790 Now, I'm going to put that specimen under the microscope, as it were. If you listen to it at one-quarter speed, four times as slow, you can hear how much sliding is going on. 142 00:39:12,790 --> 00:40:01,400 You know, when I prepared that, I first took it down to half-speed and then halved it again to get the one-quarter speed. 143 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:07,120 But let me play you the half-speed version. It's amazing how much it sounds like the theremin. 144 00:40:28,380 --> 00:40:40,940 So now you know what the anonymous four would sound like if they all had sex change operations. But before we play our singer suite, let me emphasize that sliding audibly from one note to another 145 00:40:40,940 --> 00:40:52,180 is not an easy thing to do. It's not necessarily bad. It can be a very expressive device. String players often do it even when they wouldn't have to. It's called portamento. We go into that more on another show. 146 00:40:52,400 --> 00:41:04,800 But right now, let's just say that portamento is technically a form of glissando. But in terms of how the terms are used, portamento is a comparatively subtle device that doesn't call attention to itself. 147 00:41:05,540 --> 00:41:17,080 A real glissando says, look, ma, no fingering. It really wants you to know it's there. A lot of the stuff we've heard today on this program has been more portamento than glissando. 148 00:41:17,260 --> 00:41:27,840 But there's sometimes a fine line between them. Here are three vocal numbers that use various amounts of sliding around. Portamento and glissando, I would call them. 149 00:41:28,260 --> 00:41:41,020 Before the very old recording alert goes off, let me say that the first selection was recorded in 1924. Sounds pretty good, all things considered. This suite is called Don't You Think It's About Time Your Voice Changed? 150 00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:43,160 And it... It lasts about five and a half minutes. 151 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:10,760 Hate to break it off like that. This is where we should be going into the garden scene with that slide whistle doing the bird calls. 152 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:24,400 But that suite began with El Ne Me Croyer Pas from Tomas's Mignon. Sung in Italian. And gorgeously by Tito Schipa. The sliding is not a habit with him. 153 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:33,640 He only does it where it's effective. It's beautiful. Then came Ima Sumac, the amazing Peruvian singer with a four-octave range. 154 00:47:34,060 --> 00:47:42,620 That was part of a number called Taita Inti, Virgin Sun God. Pretty hokey charts, but she had an amazing voice. 155 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:55,980 And finally, from the Ravel L'Enfant Les Sortelages again, the Cat Duet. Sung by... By Jane Berbier and Camille Morin, with Lauren Moselle conducting the Orchestre National de l'Arte F. 156 00:48:01,370 --> 00:48:12,710 Okay, let's see. Let's see, I guess about... I guess that's it, right about there. 157 00:48:14,990 --> 00:48:21,370 Okay, um, could you start at the beginning again, please? That's a... That's a frenzy fondant, uh... 158 00:48:22,550 --> 00:48:50,320 Oh, dear! 159 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,760 Come on, get up! I said make a cat! 160 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,320 Oh, dear! Come on, get up! 161 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,760 No, Sunny, don't play with that. Don't play with that! 162 00:49:44,180 --> 00:50:00,150 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah里 163 00:50:00,150 --> 00:50:08,490 ha-ha Maybe that's Mackey Queen when she moves out from the... 164 00:50:16,220 --> 00:50:26,610 Let me get that case here. Let's go. Okay. 165 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:45,000 Oops. 166 00:51:11,050 --> 00:51:13,350 Hey, don't touch, don't play with that wall play. 167 00:51:15,110 --> 00:51:18,890 Rob Brown, will you tell your little boy not to play with the wall play? 168 00:51:18,890 --> 00:51:21,350 I'm afraid he might pull it off. 169 00:51:51,260 --> 00:51:58,040 You wouldn't have gotten a tape that sounded like that when you played it back. The glissando would have gone up, not down. 170 00:51:58,780 --> 00:52:11,380 See, when you want to have a slow motion shot in a movie, you run the film through the camera faster than usual, because then when you project it at the regular speed, it's going at a slower rate than it was when you shot it. 171 00:52:12,060 --> 00:52:20,600 So if little Herman had pulled the plug out and the tape recorder had slowed down, when you played it back, it would have gone up like this. 172 00:52:21,540 --> 00:52:30,420 But we all agreed that, dramatically speaking, it registers better the way we did it. And you think you've got problems. 173 00:52:31,620 --> 00:52:41,300 You know, I can hardly listen to that cut myself, because that baby crying in the background, that's our daughter. Now, we didn't hit her or anything, no child abuse here or something, 174 00:52:41,380 --> 00:52:51,240 but she woke up from her nap and she started crying, and we didn't go to her until we had finished the cut. And I'm sure if she hasn't... 175 00:52:51,260 --> 00:52:57,940 And already, she's going to be on a psychiatrist's couch sometime talking about that. I don't know. We seem to get along well. 176 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:10,660 We're going to go out with Misha Ellman, one of the great violinists of the first half of this century, playing part of Zuchoiner Weisen by Sarasate. And this is Carol Hollister on the piano. 177 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:23,080 And you'll hear a real combination of all kinds of sliding here, from very subtle portamento to all sorts of wide glissandos, and a particular kind of string glissando, where you go... 178 00:53:24,140 --> 00:53:29,680 Where it's sort of individual notes, but sort of not. We'll hear as much of it as we can. 179 00:55:39,200 --> 00:56:43,900 I'm still feeling terrible about my daughter. 180 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:53,480 But that's sickly mixed for this week. 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