1 00:00:00,180 --> 00:00:13,040 You are listening to Member Supported 89.7, KACU-FM, Abilene. This hour of Shickley Mix provided by special friends of KACU. Ready or not, here's the theme. 2 00:00:28,180 --> 00:00:40,780 Well, hello there. I'm Peter Shickley, and this is Shickley Mix, a program dedicated to the proposition that all musics are created equal. Or as Duke Ellington put it, if it sounds good, it is good. 3 00:00:40,780 --> 00:00:50,880 And the bills for the show are paid by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and by this radio station. Our program is distributed by PRI, Public Radio International. 4 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,080 And now, ladies and gentlemen, here's me! 5 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:18,780 Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Larry Kong Show. I'm Peter Shickley, standing in for, well, sitting in, actually, for Larry, who's on vacation. He's somewhere down there. 6 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:29,440 He's over there in the Bermuda Triangle. Well, one can hope, can't one? Just kidding, folks. I've got my own show, and I'm quite satisfied with things the way they are. 7 00:01:29,700 --> 00:01:40,900 Okay, on today's program, we're going to be talking to the wallflowers of the woodwind family, instruments that don't get no respect, to coin a phrase, when it comes to solo literature. 8 00:01:41,700 --> 00:01:52,800 Well, I guess I shouldn't say they don't get no respect, but they don't get hardly no respect. And I must say that I can't... I can't figure out why. Some of these instruments have beautiful voices. 9 00:01:53,000 --> 00:02:01,800 I don't know why more composers don't write for them. And a good case in point is our first guest, the lovely English horn. Welcome to the show. 10 00:02:05,950 --> 00:02:18,770 You know, even though we've never actually met, I've enjoyed you so often that I feel as if I know you. I hate to call you Ms. Horn. I mean, that could mean Marilyn or Lena. What do your friends call you? 11 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:32,310 Okay, well, if it's all right with you, that's what I'll call you, too. Is that okay? Oh, man, I just love your voice. 12 00:02:32,570 --> 00:02:42,110 What gives it that husky sort of covered quality, which I must say is very sexy? What makes it sound like that? 13 00:02:53,600 --> 00:03:06,400 So it is the bell, huh? I've noticed that your sister, Oboe, has a flared bell, sort of like a trumpet, whereas yours is round, sort of bulbous. It looks like an onion. And that really affects the sound that much? 14 00:03:08,540 --> 00:03:18,960 Okay. Now, let me ask you this, Ng. You know that the Larry Kong show has a reputation for asking the hard questions, so this has nothing to do with my own feelings. 15 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:30,240 But, well, some people have said that as beautiful as your voice is, it doesn't have enough variety to be an important solo instrument, like some people think that... 16 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:41,710 Well, wait a minute. Let me finish. It has been said, for instance, that the celesta is a very beautiful instrument in the Nutcracker, you know, in the dance of the Sugar Plum Fairies. 17 00:03:41,910 --> 00:03:50,190 But it's no accident that... 132 sonatas for the celesta. Now, you obviously don't feel that you're in that category, but 18 00:03:50,650 --> 00:04:11,240 well, why do you think that some people do put you in that category? Well, Ng, you may be right. 19 00:04:11,660 --> 00:04:23,000 There is a lot of prejudice around. You certainly make a very convincing case for yourself. Are you pretty much always riled up about that, the injustice of it all, or do you sort of take 20 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:32,750 it philosophically? You have the patience of a saint, and if you don't mind my saying so, 21 00:04:32,750 --> 00:04:40,510 the seductiveness of a courtesan. You do, you do. And I'm dying to hear some performances on you, 22 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:51,730 Ng, so why don't you go on over there to the other part of the studio where the musicians are and put yourself in the capable hands of Carolyn Hove and Julie Jacob. We're going to hear two selections. 23 00:04:52,110 --> 00:05:01,430 The first is an excerpt from a larger work, but the second one we'll hear complete in its entirety. It's music time, folks. I'll be back in about eight minutes. 24 00:12:38,810 --> 00:12:51,590 Okay, brava, brava. Two pieces featuring our first guest, English horn. We heard two movements or sections of the Hindemith Sonata for English horn and piano with Carolyn Hove and Gloria Cheng, 25 00:12:52,170 --> 00:13:01,550 and then Billy May and his band. What a treat. Thanks for coming, Billy. That was Billy's arrangement of the Chic of Araby with Julie Jacob as the soloist. And I must say, 26 00:13:01,650 --> 00:13:12,070 as far as I can remember, that's the only jazz English horn solo I've ever heard. Come on back over here, Ng. I've got something I'd like to play you. Okay, here it comes. 27 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:29,900 Good morning, Lord Cornwallis. Oh, hello, Bradshaw. Fine morning, isn't it, old man? Just the sort of morning to defeat the American rebels, right? Right, sir. Well, then, shall we mount the attack and muddle through to victory? 28 00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:45,190 What was that? English horns. No, no, no. Before that. Oh, oh, gunfire. I thought you'd like that, Ng. A little Stan Freeberg there. 29 00:13:45,270 --> 00:13:55,580 And this is the Larry Kong Show. And we'll be back after this commercial message. Buy a car. 30 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,510 Buy another car. 31 00:14:10,270 --> 00:14:16,710 Buy lots of cars. Buy great big cars. 32 00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:20,930 Buy little cars. 33 00:14:22,510 --> 00:14:34,470 I don't care what you buy, just buy some cars. 34 00:14:34,890 --> 00:14:40,990 Go out there and... Buy, buy, buy. Keep buying cars. 35 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:58,660 Okay, we're back. And our second guest is Piccolo. Glad you could join us. Okay, now, the cool cats used to say Daddy-O, and we all know about Jackie-O. 36 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:09,140 When did you add the O to your name? Oh, so you really had nothing to do with it. 37 00:15:09,300 --> 00:15:21,520 Well, let me ask you this. Everybody knows that a Piccolo is a small flute, and on my own show, Piccolo and the Piccolo Mix, I've told my listeners what I've always been told about how the Piccolo was first invented. 38 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:33,920 About how people in the south of Italy would go to the beach, build big fires, and put some olive oil in these huge cooking pans, and then put flutes in there and let them simmer until they had shriveled up to half their original size. 39 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,640 Is that your understanding of your origins? 40 00:15:41,740 --> 00:15:52,240 Okay, and is it also true that that process was called the Mediterranean flute fry? Well, it must be true, then. 41 00:15:52,500 --> 00:16:02,720 You're sounding good today. You know, most people associate you with your high register. But I love the sound of your voice in the middle and lower parts of your range. 42 00:16:02,900 --> 00:16:08,680 It's so sweet. Sweet and simple and sort of innocent, almost like a penny whistle, which I love. 43 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:17,720 But as I say, most folks think of you in connection with your high register, which, I hope you don't mind my saying, can get a little shrill. 44 00:16:26,210 --> 00:16:35,350 Well, that's right, of course. It is. It would be boring if everybody were Juliet, right? You've got to have Lady Macbeth in there once in a while, too. But here's what I want to know. 45 00:16:35,530 --> 00:16:45,650 A friend of mine who's the piccolo player in a major symphony orchestra, and this is a true story, folks, he told me that they were doing a concert with Stars and Stripes Forever on it, 46 00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:57,810 and when it came to that famous high and loud piccolo solo in the last section, the second violinist, who sat directly in front of him, now it's true this was outdoors, but it was not a rehearsal, 47 00:16:57,810 --> 00:17:10,650 it was in the middle of the concert, the second violinist in front of him stood up, turned around, and shouted at the top of his lungs, If you don't stop that, I'm going to kill you! 48 00:17:11,710 --> 00:17:20,619 Has something like that ever happened to you? Well, I guess you're just lucky. 49 00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:30,240 And we're lucky, too, because we're about to hear you played by some very fine musicians. While Piccolo is going over there, I'll mention that we'll be hearing three selections. 50 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:42,320 The first and last, accompanied by piano, and the middle one by a small chamber ensemble, plus a very special guest artist narrating. Okay, I think they're ready to go, folks. See you in five. 51 00:19:23,220 --> 00:19:27,320 In the woods there is a bird. His song stops you and makes you blush. 52 00:19:36,730 --> 00:19:44,540 There is a clock that never strikes. There is a swamp with a nest of white beasts. 53 00:19:50,030 --> 00:19:54,910 There is a cathedral that goes down, and a lake that comes up. 54 00:20:00,850 --> 00:20:03,850 There is a little carriage abandoned in the copse, 55 00:20:03,890 --> 00:20:14,480 or that goes running down the road, beribboned. There is a troupe of strolling players in costume, 56 00:20:15,060 --> 00:20:17,560 glimpsed on the road through the border of the woods. 57 00:20:18,540 --> 00:20:25,400 And then, when you're hungry and thirsty, there's someone who chases you away. 58 00:22:24,590 --> 00:22:34,670 Delightful. Absolutely delightful. Thank you, Piccolo. Okay, we heard a charming little villanelle by Poulenc, played by William Bennett and Clifford Benson. 59 00:22:34,850 --> 00:22:46,550 And then came Childhood III with words by Rimbaud. That's the French poet, not the American one-man army. Words translated by Luis Vérez and spoken by Joan Baez. 60 00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:58,290 Thanks a lot, Joan. I appreciate it. And I'm embarrassed to say I don't know the name of the Piccolo player on that one. She's already left. Union musician, obviously. And I didn't get her name. 61 00:22:58,730 --> 00:23:10,270 I wrote that music for an album called Baptism that I did with Joan back in 1968. Wow. Well, as the rowdies at Animal House say, 62 00:23:10,450 --> 00:23:22,990 fruit flies when you're having fun. Anyway, the last piece was The March of the Bluebirds by Janacek, and that was performed by Lawrence Trott and Marcella Branigan. 1968. 63 00:23:23,010 --> 00:23:33,430 Who would have thought back then that I'd someday be filling in for Larry Kong himself? Not me. It was then and is now Peter Schickely, 64 00:23:33,570 --> 00:23:43,550 the regular host of Schickely Mix from PRI, Public Radio International. We're talking to the wallflowers of the Woodwind family, 65 00:23:43,650 --> 00:23:52,710 and our next guest is, well, he's the kind of guy you don't want to get on the wrong side of. His name's Contra Bassoon. How you doing, big fella? 66 00:23:55,210 --> 00:24:04,910 Uh, you don't say much, do you? Well, now, I hope you won't take offense at this, because I love your sound. 67 00:24:05,170 --> 00:24:14,990 You know, I used to play the real bassoon, the regular bassoon myself, and I love all the low instruments, but, you know, it's kind of hard to take you seriously. 68 00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:27,510 You've got, what, 16 feet of tubing there folded over on itself three times, is that it? I'm telling you. You look like Paul Bunyan's lower intestines. And you sound like him, too. 69 00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:45,440 Hey, take it easy. This is a family show. I'm just kidding around here a little. And I do know that you can sing lyrically, too, which a lot of people don't realize when they think about the Contra Bassoon. 70 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,900 If they think about the Contra Bassoon. 71 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,900 Uh, uh, uh. 72 00:24:56,900 --> 00:25:08,060 I didn't realize, I didn't realize there were two of you here. Where'd you come from, big brother? Tell you what, why don't you guys go on over there to the music area 73 00:25:08,060 --> 00:25:19,500 and give us all the opportunity, the very rare opportunity, of hearing some solo Contra Bassoon music. We're going to hear three selections, the first and last accompanied by piano, 74 00:25:19,660 --> 00:25:31,760 and the middle one just for the two big brothers there. You know, this is an instrument that, in most hands, is incapable of playing above middle C, the sort of central note of the piano. 75 00:25:32,660 --> 00:25:40,880 So, if you wanted to give this set of pieces a name, you could call it the Neptune Suite, because it's all below C level. 76 00:25:44,380 --> 00:25:56,280 Oh, man, I gotta get it together here. Because this, folks, this is really mostly serious music for a greatly underutilized instrument. I'll see you in five minutes. 77 00:28:52,300 --> 00:31:30,050 Some truly amazing sounds. 78 00:31:30,730 --> 00:31:43,230 The first piece was a Romance by Robert Organ, and the last was the finale of Ralph Nicholson's Miniature Suite. Both were played by Susan Nigro with Mark Lindeblad on piano. 79 00:31:43,570 --> 00:31:53,650 In between, we heard the first of Donald Earp's Five Red Hot Duets for two Contra Bassoons, played by Bradford Buckley and Greg Henniger. 80 00:31:54,290 --> 00:32:04,790 And you are listening to The Larry Kong Show, even though I'm not Larry Kong, and whoever you are, don't go away. I'll be back after this commercial message. 81 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:14,770 Drink beer. Drink more beer. 82 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:35,290 Drink lots of beer. Drink dark beer. Drink light beer. 83 00:32:36,350 --> 00:32:46,700 Don't care what kind of beer you drink. Just drink beer. 84 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:52,800 Go out there and drink, drink, drink. Keep drinking beer. 85 00:32:56,730 --> 00:33:07,330 And we're back again, this time with our last guest. He's a member of the Clarinet family, and he calls himself Bass. Not Basie, like Count Basie, just Bass. 86 00:33:07,690 --> 00:33:18,590 As in home base, or data base, or free base, or more to the point, basement. I would have liked to ask him a few questions, 87 00:33:18,690 --> 00:33:28,990 but he's too cool for that stuff. He told me that as far as he's concerned, instruments should sing, not talk. And anything he's got to say can be said musically. 88 00:33:29,470 --> 00:33:41,850 So he's already over there at the music area, and I do have to say, he has got guts. He's going to do something that none of our other guests has done. He's going to let himself be played all alone. 89 00:33:42,110 --> 00:33:47,270 No accompaniment. So here's Bass Clarinet with God Bless the Child. 90 00:34:37,650 --> 00:34:38,710 . 91 00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:39,909 . 92 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:04,560 . . . . . . 93 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:17,740 God bless the child. Played by Eric Dolphy on bass clarinet, our fourth and final guest on today's edition of The Larry Kong Show. Very, very impressive. 94 00:39:18,420 --> 00:39:29,320 Sorry, Mr. Clarinet, about the crew talking a bit during your number. They're just not used to unaccompanied, you know, and I think they thought you were still warming up. Anyway, come on over and take a load off. 95 00:39:29,540 --> 00:39:42,440 And thanks, all of you, for being on the show. It's been a great pleasure talking with you and hearing you. Now, I know you're going to be doing one last number together for us, but before you go back on over there, let me just say good luck, 96 00:39:42,620 --> 00:39:54,240 and I hope you'll join the show again sometime in the future. English horn, piccolo, contrabassoon, and bass clarinet. 97 00:39:54,700 --> 00:40:05,040 Wall flowers of the woodwind family, although why, I'll never know. Me? Me, I'm Peter Shickley from Shickley Mix, which is from PRI, Public Radio International. 98 00:40:06,980 --> 00:40:19,380 And now we're in for a real treat. All four of our forgotten members of the woodwind family. By the way, when I say forgotten, I just mean in terms of a sizable solo literature. 99 00:40:19,860 --> 00:40:29,580 All of these instruments have wonderful moments in the spotlight when it comes to orchestral and band pieces. But anyway, here are all four of them. Piccolo. 100 00:40:29,860 --> 00:40:40,460 English horn, bass clarinet, and contrabassoon together in one piece, along with two other instruments that are more or less ignored as soloists, celesta, and harp. 101 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:51,120 You've seen all of these instruments in the orchestra, but it's a pretty good bet that you've never seen these six instruments together in a piece of chamber music before. 102 00:40:52,060 --> 00:41:01,720 This is a PDQ Bach piece, and I discovered the manuscript in a hotel safe, which is why it has come to be known that it is a piece of chamber music. It is known as the safe sextet. 103 00:41:02,180 --> 00:41:13,840 I did have to do a little bit of adaptation in preparing a performing edition of this piece, since the composer wrote the top part originally for an instrument that is now obsolete, the Dill Piccolo. 104 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:23,420 And one other thing. You may have noticed in some of the performances on today's show that you can sometimes hear the keys on the instruments clicking. 105 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:36,020 PDQ Bach, ever the pragmatist, turns this necessary evil into a liveness. OK, ladies and gentlemen, as the disgruntled diner said, take it away. 106 00:48:02,250 --> 00:50:27,270 The Safe Sextet by PDQ Bach, performed on today's guests, 107 00:50:27,550 --> 00:50:38,950 Piccolo, English horn, bass clarinet, and contrabassoon, plus celesta and harp. And the players were Mary Kay Fink, Felix Krauss, Linnea Nereim, Stanley Merritt, 108 00:50:39,110 --> 00:50:51,210 Joella Jones, and Laura Okunewski. All members of I Virtuosi di Hoople. And that's our show for today, folks. Join us again tomorrow when Larry will be back at this microphone. 109 00:50:51,630 --> 00:51:02,350 And I expect you'll be seeing a considerably tanner Larry Kong. That's tomorrow. Tomorrow on the Larry Kong Show. Remember, if Larry doesn't know about it, it hasn't happened. 110 00:51:02,570 --> 00:51:05,530 Be good to yourself and watch where you walk. 111 00:51:22,140 --> 00:51:34,580 And out. OK. Well, that ought to keep the losers who listen to Larry League. That should keep them happy for another 23 hours or so. 112 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:46,760 Let's see. Where did I park the car? I've got a lot of stuff to carry. Hello? Oh, hello, sir. What? 113 00:51:47,620 --> 00:51:57,400 I'm still on the air, but I thought I'd... Oh, man. How much longer? OK, OK. Well, I'll throw something on. 114 00:51:57,500 --> 00:52:10,480 That is, I'll play something for our listeners to enjoy until the hour's up. The trouble is, with all that live music, I don't have much in the way of... But I'll find something. OK, all right, bye. Come on, come on, come on, come on. 115 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,020 What have I got here? Anything. 116 00:52:40,330 --> 00:52:51,570 Well, that's Chickalimix for this week. 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